MotoGP Pre-Season και γενικά αγωνιστικά νέα 2017

[GIOTIS750]

Rossi enjoying new chassis

Movistar Yamaha's new chassis is has made MotoGP veteran Valentino Rossi a happy man following testing at Catalunya in Spain.

Yamaha were testing two new M1 frames around the Spanish circuit this week following the MotoGP weekend. Rossi was delighted with the results, revealing he was much more comfortable in the corners.

"I always struggle with this bike for turning, for the entry to the corner," said the Italian of the old chassis on crash.net.

"I'm never very comfortable…at 100%.

"So today we had a different chassis, a little bit, Yamaha work always very much under this point of view. And is better. I like. I prefer the bike like this. It's more easy. It's better for my style.

"For me the bike turns a bit better and I enter into the corner faster. So this is the way. You can be more precise and is also more fun to ride.

"There remain some other problems like the stress on the rear tyre that anyway is quite a lot in a track like this. So we have to continue. Try to improve. Tomorrow will be another day here. We have some other stuff to try so we hope to continue like this."

Rossi is coming off an eighth place finish in Catalunya, leaving him in fifth in the riders' championship.
http://www.foxsportsasia.com/motorsp...g-new-chassis/


ptc

[mario27]

THE DUCATI RIDER HAS BEEN USING A BREMBO THUMB-OPERATED MASTER CYLINDER FOR A YEAR NOW. HERE IS WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT WORKS:

After securing the double win last week (Italian GP and Catalan GP), Andrea Dovizioso is fulfilling the dreams of all the Ducati fans. The manufacturer from Borgo Panigale, Italy, hasn't celebrated two victories in a row since 2010 with Casey Stoner. There is just one question everyone is asking: what is the secret behind this rider's recent come back? Up until the first half of the last championship, Dovizioso had only won one MotoGP race. 

Now, in just seven days, he has added another two wins for a total of three when counting the 2016 Malaysia GP at the end of last season. He has undergone a total transformation in the last 12-15 races, probably due to a combination of factors. This rise coincided with his adopting a specific Brembo technical solution, that appeared to have been forgotten. 

Over the course of the second part of last season, Dovizioso got used to managing the rear brake with a hand lever, one that the Brembo engineers had dusted off to provide a technical solution just for him. In the last few months, Andrea has gotten very good at using this instrument and not just to slow the bike down in braking sections, but also to stay balanced when accelerating. 
To prevent dangerous skidding, Dovizioso uses the calibrated "clamps", which give him a kind of traction control that is literally manual. Let's take a better look at the advantages that there might be to using this unusual rear master cylinder designed and built by Brembo.



THE ORIGINS

The thumb-operated master cylinder was designed by Brembo engineers to compensate for the physical shortcomings of Mick Doohan. Mick had fallen during the 500cc test laps at the 1992 Dutch GP. 
The Australian rider risked having his right leg amputated after it was smashed in the accident. Since the rider had difficulty modulating the force with his leg, the Brembo engineers designed a solution specifically for him. 
The rear brake was activated with a hand control positioned on the left handlebar, rather than with a foot pedal on the right side. This was one of the factors that contributed to Mick Doohan returning to competition riding, leading him onto winning five consecutive world championships from 1994 to 1998. Many experts still claim today that the use of the thumb-operated master cylinder was a determining factor in his extraordinary winning streak.

REBIRTH 

On the wake of Doohan, other riders have adopted this same solution but with varied results and non have demonstrated the same skill as the Australian pilot. Having been placed on the back-burner, the thumb master cylinder is now coming back into fashion. Dovizioso has been using it since 2016 and as of this year Danilo Petrucci and others are in the experimental phase. In SBK, Tom Sykes is one of the biggest fans of the Brembo thumb master cylinder. 


ADVANTAGES

Its scope no longer matches the reason why it was created, that is to control the rear brake. In fact, lately the riders use it to avoid skidding in the corners. Practically speaking, the thumb master cylinder is use as a kind of traction control: it is activated mid-corner in order to stay close to the tire traction point, straightening out the bike as quickly as possible.
Also, with respect to the traditional rear brake, the thumb master cylinder is more ergonomic. Riders who have big feet and wear more than a size 43 find it difficult to use the lever mid-corner where the lean angle surpasses 60° because the movement space is limited by the tarmac that is increasingly adherent to the bike.
With a thumb-operated lever, the command is more sensitive and the rider can be more precise in managing it, however, it takes getting used to. 
In MotoGP today, the Brembo thumb master cylinder is used together with the pedal-operated master cylinder, and the rear master cylinder is replaced with a dual circuit Brembo master cylinder that can activate the rear brake with both the traditional pedal and the thumb, depending on the circumstances.

Συνέχεια εδω
http://www.brembo.com/en/company/new...-brembo-brakes

[stam2]

Από το 2018 θα επιτρέπονται μηνύματα των ομάδων να εμφανίζονται στις οθόνες των οδηγών του motogp. Ετσι θα βοηθηθούν οι τακτικές των ομάδων περισσότερο...
Εδώ βλέπουμε φωτό απο την μηχανή αγαπημένου οδηγού...

[mario27]

At Assen the MotoGPs are 'beaten' by the SBKs

1’34”617 and 1’34”880. These are the two fastest lap times at Assen 2017, but the first belongs to MotoGP, Scott Redding with the Ducati, and the second to Superbike, Jonathan Rea with the Kawasaki. Well, behind these two numbers, and many others that we note when comparing the two categories, there is something that tells us that the Assen race, beyond the actual race result, requires closer analysis.

It is, above all, a sign that in MotoGP it only takes something small, a missed practice for example, for the situation to be turned on its head, with the impression that it is difficult for everyone to get to the heart of the matter. The final result at Assen, we feel, only goes so far in explaining the current situation in the reigning class,  particularly in terms of the effective competitiveness of the bikes.

The best lap time between the two categories has never been so close (aside from rare occasions twenty years ago). The SBKs performance in April are too close in this case, almost overlapping, with those of MotoGP. Let's not forget that, with the Superbikes, we're talking about production-derived bikes, which weigh at least 5 kg more, with brakes in steel not carbon, less advanced electronics and less extreme tyres.

We could say that the MotoGP practices were conditioned by the rain. It's true, but if we look at Friday's dry times, when riders are not looking to make flying laps, we see that Vinales already set an 1’33”130 in FP2, a prelude to some low 1’32”s by the end of qualifying. normally, in fact, between Friday and Saturday, times come down by almost a second. Now, the race pace on a dry track went up to 1’35”, very high, too high compared to Friday's practices. A pace that is only a fraction faster than that of the Superbikes, which suggests extreme difficulty in setting up the bikes with the Michelins, where any small thing can result in disaster. It's clear that something is not working as it should. In terms of overall performance, it seems that there is confusion, with the situation changing race after race.

For a correct comparison (Race 1 for the SBK) let's start with the weather. In SBK 10° air temperature, asphalt at 18° and 54% humidity. In MotoGP 18°, 25° and 76%, so the comparison is consistent.

The total race time for the first 17 laps in both categories (so before the rain started to fall in GP) was 27’00”8 for Rossi, with a 12 second advantage over Rea (27’12”4). Rea would have been twelfth in the race at this point, in fact, ahead of Iannone.Other data. The first lap sees the SBKs travelling faster than the MotoGPs: Davies completed it in a fantastic 1’39”890 to the 1’40”189 of Zarco. The first 5 flying laps: Rea 7’56”76, Zarco 7’54”44. Just over 2 seconds difference. Dovizioso was at 7’56”12. So we would have seen Rea right up behind Dovizioso and Davies just two tenths behind.

But the most disconcerting thing are the split times.

- 1st sector. Aside from Dovizioso in 31”093, Davies is quicker than everyone with a 31”137 and Rea with 31”213 is 1 tenth quicker than Petrucci.

- 2nd sector. Dovizioso 14”009 and Zarco 14”036, but Sykes sets an excellent 14”056, faster than Rossi. Remember that sector 2 is that where we see the bikes at maximum speed, where Dovi's Ducati travels at 312.1 kmh, Zarco at 307.4 and Rossi at 306,2. Sykes manages only 292.8 and Davies just 286.9. So we're talking about a difference of a good 15-20 kmh, more than just loose change. This data requires further reflection.

- 3rd sector, and here's the surprise, Davies with the Panigale sets an impressive 27”480, he's the fastest across the two categories (Zarco 27.503). Rea is at 27”587, almost the same as Rossi 27”529.

- Finally, the 4th sector, where only Petrucci (21”637) and Marquez (21”694) beat the SBK of Sykes (21.822).

So we ask ourselves: the MotoGP bikes are lighter, more powerful, brake better, accelerate better, are faster, have been mid-corner speed, have actual race bike geometry, high performance tyres and the riders too, at least those on the first/second row, are stronger too. And so? How is it possible that in certain sections there were slower than the SBKs? Did they simply not push as hard? If that's the case, we should all be asking where the category is headed...

We add a final note with Vittoriano Guareschi's opinion. Talking to Motosprint, the former team manager sees that something doesn't add up. “The production-derived bikes have grown a lot, but if we look at the current MotoGP times we see they're going slow. It's almost as if the manufacturers are unable to do everything within their power. And the riders don't seem to be riding with the same level of performance. Up until a while ago, only a few could fully exploit a MotoGP. That made the difference. So it's difficult to judge the bikes and riders right now”
https://www.gpone.com/en/2017/06/30/...-the-sbks.html

[karellen]

Από το 2018 θα επιτρέπονται μηνύματα των ομάδων να εμφανίζονται στις οθόνες των οδηγών του motogp. Ετσι θα βοηθηθούν οι τακτικές των ομάδων περισσότερο...
Εδώ βλέπουμε φωτό απο την μηχανή αγαπημένου οδηγού...

Μα οδηγάει fast! Απλώς τον δυσκολεύει η ζελατίνα του κράνους,η βρόχα που ήταν ακατάστατη και δεν έπιπτε στρέιτ θρου,ο Ερμής ήταν ανάδρομος και άλλοι πολλοί significant λόγοι.

[GIOTIS750]

Rossi: Συγχαρητήρια!
Στους αναβάτες της Monster Tech3
Νέα 05/07/2017 - 15:31
http://www.motograndprix.gr/content.aspx?id=26459






Pol Espargaro says KTM can be 'really proud' of its start in MotoGP

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...tart-in-motogp








O Miller στην Pramac
Ο Rabat στην Avintia
Νέα 05/07/2017 - 10:29
http://www.motograndprix.gr/content.aspx?id=26454






Cosmote και Nova διεκδικούν τα τηλεοπτικά δικαιώματα του MotoGP
Πρώτη καταχώρηση: Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουλίου 2017, 20:51


Πριν από μερικούς μήνες έγινε συνάντηση στην Αθήνα μεταξύ ανθρώπων της Dorna και της Nova...


http://www.zougla.gr/automoto/news/a...ata-tou-motogp




Suzuki legend Kevin Schwantz says Andrea Iannone just "needs to get on with the job" after a dismal first half of the 2017 MotoGP season.


"I'd be happy to tell him what we all see, what everybody sees and everybody thinks," the 1993 500cc champion said. "He may not like what he hears.

"I spoke to him in Austin and he said he just can't believe it, because the bike doesn't stop, doesn't start and doesn't turn. Doesn't sound like it's much good, but he was okay in testing.

"In Qatar, he ran into the back of somebody in the middle of the corner, the bike cornering was pretty good there.


Andrea Iannone needs to raise his game - and fast

"He just needs to be told get on with the job, sometimes it is hard work.

"It's easy for him to sit in his chair and see the Ducatis doing as good as they are and say 'woah, I should still be there'.

"Don't forget, they fired you, they sent you packing! You don't have that opportunity anymore, so make the most of what you've got."

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...tz-926433/?s=1



MotoGP, Pernat: Yamaha, Ducati, Honda, Suzuki, how many errors in 2017
From the frame of the M1 to Lorenzo in red and the difficulties of the GSX-RR, here are all the manufacturers' mistakes

https://www.gpone.com/en/2017/07/03/...s-in-2017.html




Dani Pedrosa: Rossi and I need to reinvent ourselves
"We race against 20 year-olds who have been dragging their elbows on the kerb for 10 years. I've never asked for favouritism, but it is true: I'm light for a MotoGP bike"





https://www.gpone.com/en/blog/paolo-...ourselves.html




MotoGP, Lorenzo: eleventh place? It could have been worse
Jorge reveals: after the warm-up, I was one of the slowest, in the future I expect a big change from Ducati

https://www.gpone.com/en/2017/07/03/...een-worse.html




slzr

[GIOTIS750]

How do you solve a problem like Andrea?
by Mat Oxley on 12th July 2017



I’ve already said it, but I’ll say it again, I like Andrea Iannone, mostly because he’s funny. MotoGP is lucky at the moment, not least because the grid includes a full rainbow of characters, from angelic assassins and gritty little boxers to scary old men and (pantomime) gangsters.

It’s not me suggesting Iannone is a wannabe gangster. A journalist recently asked the Italian what he would do for a living if he didn’t race bikes and he immediately replied he would be a gangster.

ΣΥΝΕΧΕΙΑ ΕΔΩ
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...problem-andrea


SHOOTER045

[RaGe_Raptor]

Ωπ, τι έχουμε δω;

[argiris34]

Ωπ, τι έχουμε δω;

OOOOOOXIIIIIIIIII

[sapila racing]

Αν παει έτσι, που έτσι δείχνει, θα βρεθεί ο Redding στην Suzuki, o Iannone στην Aprilia και ο Miller στο Ducati Pramac στην θέση του Redding.
Tότε μένει να δούμε ποιός θα παρει το Honda Marc VDS του Miller.

[RaGe_Raptor]

Αν παει έτσι, που έτσι δείχνει, θα βρεθεί ο Redding στην Suzuki, o Iannone στην Aprilia και ο Miller στο Ducati Pramac στην θέση του Redding.
Tότε μένει να δούμε ποιός θα παρει το Honda Marc VDS του Miller.

H Suzuki θέλει και satellite ομάδα. Ενδεχόμενο.

[sapila racing]

H Suzuki θέλει και satellite ομάδα. Ενδεχόμενο.

Και να θέλει, δεν νομίζω οτι υπάρχουν θέσεις στο grid.

[Ζεύκας]

o Iannone στην Aprilia

οκ να φύγει ο Σαμ από την Απρίλια που τα πάει σκατά αλλά όχι να έρθει ο Ιαννόνε

[sapila racing]

οκ να φύγει ο Σαμ από την Απρίλια που τα πάει σκατά αλλά όχι να έρθει ο Ιαννόνε

E ας δώσει κατι παραπάνω η Aprilia να παρει τον Lorenzo.

[Ζεύκας]

Γτ βρε Άρη να καταστραφεί μια ελπιδοφόρα ομάδα;
Μέχρι τώρα η Απρίλια όλο βελτιώνεται όχι να τη στείλουμε στα αζήτητα!